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Post by JG26_Scannon on Mar 13, 2013 12:16:30 GMT -5
The early stages of design development have begun for operation Cerberus / Fuller. This will be an SEOW / HSFX6 style campaign.
Any persons interested in contributing pertinent knowledge of the Channel Dash significant to either Royal Command, RAF, Kreigsmarine or Luftwaffe, or persons interested in a history lesson are invited to join us on teamspeak as we brainstorm the conflict surrounding the fate of Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen.
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Post by JG26_Badger on Mar 13, 2013 23:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by JG26_Scannon on Mar 14, 2013 11:14:31 GMT -5
Great map Badger.... the bits of info relative to air units and submarine patrols will come in helpful in trying to nail down the template. Per our discussion we will start on the Bay of Biscay map and then use SEOW to transition to the Westfront 40 (if available) or 44 map, which will cover the majority of the route. From there I wasn't sure how the scenario would wrap up. Once the ships passed north of the Westfront map they were probably somewhat home free from interdiction but it would be nice to finish the complete route. On the SAS forum they had a decent thread going showing the majority of maps in IL2, but it is not completely up to date. I found this composite there.... any knowledge of the Wag_Nordsee map and what it would take to make that an SEOW compliant map? (that is if its full scale)
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Post by JG26_Scannon on Mar 14, 2013 14:20:51 GMT -5
From the Donerkeil read it looks like RAF bomber operations herangued the ships all the while at Brest and pursued the ships all the way into Kiel harbor. It would be great to get the north map involved if at all possible.
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Post by gosling on Mar 15, 2013 12:16:52 GMT -5
Hi Chaps Being a famously heroic fatal Fleet Air Arm action I am very interested in this. The FAA Museum has a stand about this action. I believe 6 Swordfish used RAF Manston as a Forward Operating Base and launched to chase the Germans who had passed the Diver Straits. Lt Cdr Eugene Esmonde RN (I think) commanded. All aircraft were lost and I think only 2 aircrew survived having ditched. I'll look into it further. The museum is in the building next to my work. I'm pretty sure there was a VC involved. Gosling Edit: Found this: www.royalnavy.mod.uk/News-and-Events/Latest-News/2012/January/04/120104-Channel-DashAnd this; www.fleetairarm.com/history-of-channel-dash.aspx
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Post by JG26_Scannon on Mar 15, 2013 16:10:31 GMT -5
Thanks Gosling! any insight, particularly from the British side is greatly appreciated!
Perusing the SAS forums it appears that i/JG27_Waggle's WAG_NORDSEE map is most likely still in Beta or Alpha development. There is also a Netherland map that is work in progress and has some really great screenshots posted. We'll have to keep an eye on those.
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Post by JG26_Badger on Mar 15, 2013 17:50:48 GMT -5
S! Thanks Gosling good to hear from you mate.
Scannon I was looking at the maps we have available in SEOW we really do not have one that represents the area in question which was the Wilhelmshaven area which would represent the area that the ships would have been relatively save from the Brits. The map you mentioned WAG_NORDSEE would cover that area but it is beta and is not in SEOW.
If you really wanted to continue past the WestFront 44 map I would suggest you look at the Barent Sea map. Kirkenes could represent Wilhelmshaven and Murmansk could be the mouth of the Elbe river area. Which is the area in which the convoy was deemed safe. The problem is you have no bases for the RAF so they would have to be launched from an air resupply base at the far NW corner of the map to represent British land based bombers from England.
Otherwise if you stay with the two maps Bay of Biscay and WestFront 44 the NE corner would be the safe zone. Either way I think your campaign idea is awesome.
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Post by JG26_Scannon on Mar 22, 2013 20:15:45 GMT -5
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Post by 1.JaVA_Jojo on Apr 1, 2013 5:40:02 GMT -5
Hello JG26!
1.JaVA is happy that you guys will come up with something new again!
I did put up a thread about this on our website and thus far Picard, Jumper, FD, Biggles, Keben, RedDevil, RedBeard (and myself) would like to participate.
I did inform a friendly squad also, the =FI= (Fighting Irish) and hope they will join with a couple of pilots as well.
Happy Easter all!
1.JaVA_Jojo
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Post by 102ndyuchief on Apr 7, 2013 18:21:47 GMT -5
helo guys! some interesing seow here Im here to ask if your looking for some sqdns to join? if so,can you provide some more details about SEOW, which settings, starting time and such... maybe my sqd could join u? guys are very fimiliar with seow, we fly it often with some other squadrons you might know as we are finishing actual campaigns, we are looking forward to some new stuff. maybe it will be good oportunity for,to have some good time in virtual skies, and to make some new sqd friendships ,which would be good basis for coperation in upcoming seows. dont know if you do have server for this campaign and in which stage is development right now...but we may assist in that field...maybe i would also recommend to you guys to register on SEOW HQ forum, and post some threads... more people would be interested for participation(if you are looking for more players to join) www.seowhq.net/my english is not pro, i hope you understand, CHEERS GUYS! keep up the good work!
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